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David Pisarek: Hey, everybody. In this episode, we will discuss partnerships, donations, fundraising, and all that awesome stuff. Stay tuned and listen to the episode.

Welcome to the Non-profit Digital Success Podcast. I’m your host, David. In this episode, we’re going to be talking about partnerships and fundraising with Trevor and Erin. Trevor is the co-founder and CEO of OrgMatch, a B2B collaboration platform for organizations to discover, form, manage, and measure partnerships.

Trevor previously held senior grantmaking and fundraising roles at large foundations before founding OrgMatch. Erin is the founder and CEO of Elevate Social Impact, a consulting firm that guides companies, non-profits, and individuals on their philanthropic journey. Interestingly, they are aspiring podcasters and will be starting one to provide an international perspective on impact partnerships. That is a mouthful.

Erin, Trevor, welcome to my podcast. Tell us what’s this podcast like. What are you thinking about for your podcast?

Erin Mogel: Thank you so much for having us, David. We really appreciate it. We’re so excited to be here. So happy to start our podcast.

It’s going to be called Social Situations. So stay tuned for that in the coming months. But in this podcast, we’re really focused on speaking to leaders across all aspects of the social impact sector.

So all sides, whether it’s non-profit, CSR, ESG, foundation, sustainability, and so on. And really getting their perspective on how they move the needle, how they are really disrupting the space in the hopes of creating greater change. I’m so excited to get some awesome folks on and really shed light on the current and future state of social impact.

David Pisarek: That’s amazing.

Erin Mogel: Thank you.

David Pisarek: I think there’s certainly a void in the educational sector of the work that we do, where we can help people and enlighten them and inspire and provide guidance and help them maybe avoid some pitfalls that others have already gone through. That’s fantastic. Congratulations. Kudos. Looking forward to listening to some episodes once you get that up and going.

Erin Mogel: Thank you so much; we appreciate it.

David Pisarek: All right, so Trevor, what do you see as the biggest challenge facing philanthropy right now?

Trevor Loke: I think the siloing of the sector where people are operating in their own worlds, where maybe non-profits, especially change-makers who are new to this space, are just struggling in terms of getting started.

I think there’s a lot we can do in terms of knowledge translation, in terms of lifting people up, and mentorship within the sector to help pass down all of the great change that has been impacted over the past decades, but also realize that there’s always an opportunity to get better and learn and disrupt and innovate.

I think it’s going to be a balancing act. It’s going to require bringing new people in. It’s going to require taking notes in terms of what’s working and what’s not working, and trying to figure out how we can come together to solve some of those challenges.

David Pisarek: Erin, any thoughts?

Erin Mogel: Absolutely. I would say, I agree entirely with what Trevor said. And just to add on, I would also say funding.

I think that is always a challenge of the non-profit sector. With that, attracting and retaining donors, there are so many causes out there right now, especially with all of the challenges our society is facing. So donors are being pulled in different directions.

So really for non-profits, just ensuring that they are diversifying revenue streams and aren’t just reliant on, say, an individual donor or say, bringing in funding from an event or from a grant, really ensuring that they are looking broadly and holistically at how they fundraise and who they are gaining funds from.

I mean, an example of this is pre-COVID, a lot of non-profits relied on events as a space for bringing in funding.

They would plan their annual gala or a 5K walk. But we came to know during COVID, of course, events weren’t happening. And events are, for better or worse, not as much of a thing anymore. We have smaller-scale events. We do things online now. Organizations are having to think about how to make up the funds that they may be losing from not holding those events.

And also having those hard conversations about how can we ensure we have a diverse funding pool, a diverse pool of revenue coming in so that should anything happen, there still is revenue coming in to sustain their programming.

David Pisarek: 100%. And I totally agree. I think organizations aren’t thinking long-term or long-term enough. I think they’re thinking right now, immediately, they need, I don’t know, $100,000 to fund X, Y, and Z, whatever it is.

There is something called a Silver Tsunami. I think it’s been maybe 20 episodes or so since I’ve mentioned this.

There are a lot of baby boomers who hold a significant amount of wealth, certainly in North America.

They are going to be passing wealth down, whether willingly or unwillingly, depending on how long they live, survival, death, etc. If you can start having conversations with people, getting people to actually care about your organization, again, to be empathetic to what you’re doing and understand the impact that they can have a legacy that they could potentially leave, you can be looking at possibly bringing in a massive chunk of money to your organization as legacy gifts from people’s wills or estates.

Erin Mogel: Yeah, I really appreciate what you said about talking about impact. I think that people want to feel part of the work that non-profits are doing.

I think there’s such potential in that education piece and really not just asking for donations, but really taking the time, of course, to build that donor relationship and take them on the donor journey. But also to sit down and educate them on the value of their donation and the impact of their contribution and the impact over time, should they be a sustained donor, a monthly donor, or someone that’s actively involved in your organization, even if it’s from a volunteer perspective.

I think there’s so much potential like you said, with this next generation coming up of philanthropists, but non-profits then have the difficult but important role of doing that education piece and ensuring that those folks are brought into the inner circle, inner conversations that those organizations are having.

David Pisarek: Absolutely. We were talking about challenges right off the bat. Well, what are the biggest challenges facing philanthropy? Trevor, what are your thoughts on how organizations could address these challenges?

Trevor Loke: Well, there’s so many challenges and so many things. I mean, whether an organization is looking internally in terms of its governance, the team it wants to build, or how it wants to achieve its mission.

There’s also how are we going to solve the multitude of challenges facing us, whether that’s income inequality or climate change or other issues that are affecting us, war and poverty internationally? It’s a lot to think about at once. I think this is where collaboration comes in and realizing that we’re all part of an ecosystem.

We can’t do one thing alone. If we can all figure out where we can add the most value and do it in the most frictionless way possible, I think that’s really the ideal, and it is idealistic, but it’s also an aim that we all have to work toward.

Because what hasn’t worked is when we’re writing one check and saying, “Okay, this is going to solve a problem”, or we’re putting all of the burdens on one individual or one organization to solve a challenge; it’s not fair and it’s also not sustainable.

Erin Mogel: I completely agree with that. I think there’s such power and partnerships and collaboration. That’s why Trevor and I are starting this podcast together. We see the value of working collaboratively, which also goes for for-profit and non-profit partnerships, which is a lot of what Trevor and I think about in our work and for our upcoming podcast.

How can those organizations work in tandem? How can we lessen the gap between for-profit and non-profit and help these two sectors work more closely together? For-profits, of course, with the resources that non-profits need to be able to move the needle. I see a lot of attention on that, and I’m always working toward bringing those two areas together, hopefully lessening that gap in the future.

David Pisarek: Yeah, a handful of years ago, I’d say maybe five years ago, six years ago, it started to become popular to get big donors, whether they’re corporate or individuals, to do donation matching. You donate a dollar, they’ll match a dollar up to a certain amount when you’re going after, to your point, about an individual donor and then carrying the load.

If you can get four or five medium-sized donors to pool their money together to match donations one for one or one for two or whatever the ratio happens to be, I think that’s a quick win. Totally talking about partnerships there. How can you bring people together to create a bigger impact to have a greater influence, not influence, that’s not the right word, but greater results for your organization.

Erin Mogel: Yeah, I like that idea of giving circles for those unfamiliar, with people coming together around. It could be one organization they’re part of the giving circle, and they pool their funds towards maybe a specific campaign or cause of that the organization of supporting.

Or maybe there’s a giving circle in your community or affiliated with your church or your company or your children’s school or an affinity group you’re part of and so on. It really spans the gamut.

But those groups of people pool their funds and then give towards multiple organizations, one organization, what have you, and it’s incredible. The power of their funding, the impact that they can have when they come together, it’s amazing and it’s really cool to see.

Of course, with that, there’s so much education and advocacy going on as well. Their connection to that non-profit is even stronger when they work together to support them.

Trevor Loke: I think the momentum is there too, Erin. One of the family foundations that I work with, the third generation has just inherited all of the wealth and they’re looking to shake things up. One of the things that they want is they want to know who they’re giving funding to and they want to know who else is giving funding.

They’re taking a more community-based approach where instead of writing a million-dollar check to a large university, they’re now writing $100,000 checks to grassroots organizations where that’s going to be a longer impact gift that’s going to help fund operating needs, making sure that that organization can focus on its programs and missions.

You can feel better about this collaboration as well, I think, as a donor.

David Pisarek: When we think about organizations, we often think about the CEO, the president, and the foundation side. If it’s a big enough organization, there are some distinguishing differences between them. But how are funders changing their practices so they can be more effective? You just gave an example there. Are there other things that you should be looking at?

Erin Mogel: Yeah. I think funders also, that’s a broad category. You have the corporate funders and foundation funders, and you can consider an individual funder.

A giving circle could be a funder group. From my perspective, working heavily in corporate social responsibility, I like to think of the company funder. I think of that, if we break that down a little bit, an impactful group of employees.

Something I’m really passionate about is employee engagement and getting corporate employees out into the community because, of course, money can go far, and we can’t dispute that. But time, energy, expertise, and knowledge can also make an incredible impact in the non-profit sector.

Now, more than ever, companies are committing to getting their employees out in the community.

It’s very beneficial, of course, for the non-profit, but also the employees. It’s a great team-building opportunity. It’s a great way for employees to come together and impact the community around them. It’s a great way to feel more committed to their company and their company’s mission and brand. And to feel really good about doing something that’s positively impacting society.

So whether it’s employees volunteering at, let’s say, an organization supporting youth and mentoring them, reading to children, or it could be pro-bono service.

Maybe the team, let’s say, the finance team that your company is going to go into a non-profit and fix up their financial services practices in a day. And maybe that non-profit doesn’t even have a finance team. So it’s really impactful what companies and their employees can do to support employees in addition to the monetary funding they can provide.

Trevor Loke: And just to build on that area from a company perspective, I think there is more pressure than we’ve ever seen before for companies to adopt these practices.

Tell the folks that are in their audience, how they are actually giving back and how they are using the funds that they’re receiving and profiting from the consumer base that it’s fueling them and their ability to exist, to have a better society.

I think there’s a struggle at the same time around funders trying to figure out “How do we do this, how do we tell this story” without losing sight of their objectives. But I think a trend that we’re going to see more and more and certainly the growth in community investment and ESG, is encouraging.

David Pisarek: I think it’s really important that businesses do spend time giving back, whether it’s financially, volunteer time, support, advice, having people sit on the boards of directors or committee work.

There are so many ways that you can get back. One of the things that I think is really an interesting idea is for businesses to let employees take time, maybe one day a month, one day every quarter, whatever it happens to be, to go and spend the time with whatever it is that they actually care about where they can create some positive impact.

But do it in a genuine way. What I mean by that is, yeah, you should be talking about it. You should be on the rooftops saying, “Hey, this is what we’re doing. Here’s how we help.” If you look at Tom’s shoes or something like that, for every pair sold, they give a pair to the homeless. They should be talking about it. But their cause is specifically tied to their business.

Don’t get people volunteering because you want to promote on social that you’re doing some social good. Be genuine about it, be honest about it, talk about it, and that will help both sides.

The organizations are going to get the help they need. And the business has something really neat to talk about. So, Erin, how can organizations measure their impact?

Erin Mogel: Yeah, absolutely. I think there are so many methods for measurement. Right now, again, the non-profit sector looking different than the for-profit CSR space. But I think that that measurement piece is so important.

So from the non-profit perspective, I think it’s the quantifying, the impact, and the dollars raised. There’s obviously the donor perspective as well as the beneficiary perspective.

So dollars raised, the number of donors, donors retained, board involvement. How long are people sticking around on your board? How many volunteers do you have? What is the number of hours that they’re contributing? But beyond that, we have to dig deeper.

It’s not just the number of hours; what is their impact?

And that’s where, in my mind, again, it goes to the beneficiaries. So, what are they accomplishing? And I think the way I think about impact is short-term and long-term. I think we always want to grasp those numbers and report on the impact as soon as a project is done. But just because the project is done doesn’t mean a community has been served long-term.

So I think it’s important to measure impact throughout a campaign or a program or a project, but also continue to track that and continue to track your beneficiaries or the community you’re serving or whatever it is that you’re doing so that you can really see the change over time and see how your donors and volunteers and board members and all of your stakeholders are really getting involved.

I think, again, just to speak from the CSR perspective for a moment as well, I think it’s really interesting because there’s so much conversation around measuring impact. I think, especially with this growing ESG space, it’s sometimes hard.

I’ve been a part of different conversations on how we measure the S in ESG, and there’s no clear-cut standardized way in which to do that. I think that’s also the struggle that each organization measures impact differently. So it’s also hard to compare or put together a list of the most impactful organizations because what does that even mean? Are we comparing apples and oranges? We work in different sectors.

Also, having been in the non-profit sector myself for about a decade, I know that a lot of times corporations or funders understandably want to measure impact right away to report back to stakeholders. But for non-profits, some things are just not as measurable so quickly, or their numbers, what they deem as really successful, might look different to a company.

So if you have like 80% of, I don’t know, students graduating high school in an underserved community with a C+ average, that might be great.

But to a corporation that maybe doesn’t understand the full context of a community, they might think, “Oh, C+ average, we failed. We didn’t get them to where they need to be.” It’s like that understanding of the cultural context and really listening to the people at that non-profit. If you can speak to the beneficiaries and the people who are really in that community, then you’re golden in terms of how you can really understand and measure impact.

Trevor Loke: There’s this trend for trust-based philanthropy and at least a discussion around what that looks like.

For me, it’s less about putting a deadline on your calendar around a report being due or a report being expected, and more about being in an active conversation with what’s going on. So then if there are challenges, you’ve built enough trust with someone that they can pick up the phone and tell you about that challenge and bring you into being part of the solution. I think that’s so much of where we need to go, but it’s going to take a lot of work and it requires, I think, a little bit more effort on the part of the donor.

But if we can get that, they will find that the quality of the partnerships and, therefore, the return on the investment for the impact they’re generating is exponential.

David Pisarek: We mentioned this a little bit. There are different ways that people could get involved with an organization that isn’t just monetary, not just talking about dollars.

Dollars obviously can go a long way, especially if you can convince your donors to give it to a generic pool where it can best be spent wherever it’s needed most, instead of specific individual campaigns.

I think emotionally, you can get people to donate money to a specific campaign easier than a general pool. It’s like, “All right, how do you actually balance that?” But putting that aside, do you have any different thoughts or suggestions on how an organization that isn’t around money can get people involved?

Erin Mogel: Yeah, I think there are so many ways, which is exciting.

I think a lot of times, if someone’s asked for a donation and they can’t give, they think that’s the only way that maybe they can get involved. I’m so happy always to share that there are many different ways to get involved. Volunteering is one way non-profits always need volunteers, whether it’s at a one-off event that they’re planning or maybe it’s a sustained volunteer activity, mentoring, working with youth, or getting out in the community.

Again, There are so many depending on the cause area they represent. If the organization is maybe based internationally and their efforts are not where you’re located, they might often look for some volunteer in their office, whether getting bags ready for an event or so many other things. Maybe it’s that pro-bono support that I was talking about.

So, it could be taking your skill set and offering pro-bono service. So whatever it is, your skills and marketing, communications, finance, tech, bringing that into the organization and areas that may be lacking in terms of a full staff person or team. And I think also to our earlier point about board service, that’s a great way as well to be really committed and to have a leadership opportunity.

Also, junior boards, too, for individuals that are maybe a little bit earlier in their career to gain that leadership, that responsibility. You feel invested in the inner circle of those organizations when you’re in that capacity. I think there are many ways to get involved outside of giving monetarily.

Trevor Loke: I think there’s some growing sophistication that we’re seeing in the types of agreements that both donors and non-profits are engaging in.

We’ll hopefully see more multi-year agreements that include these non-financial elements, like agreements to send out press releases or hold events together to share data. But there are also some things that I think companies can look at doing that are very, I guess, low effort and high value.

One of those things might be sharing rooms and space. If you can, for example, have a really nice boardroom you could allow a wine and cheese event for a non-profit to be hosted there. Another thing you can do is make introductions to peers in the space.

I think this is part of bringing others into your investments. Or if you’re not able to invest yourself, think about “Who do I think would genuinely be interested in this?” and “Who can help this person be connected to so that they’re not starting cold and they’re more likely to be successful as a result.” Just a couple of more ways that I think organizations can think about how we can help. And again, without needing to spend any money or put in a lot of hours.

David Pisarek: I love that idea about helping them with networking. Much of what we do concerns who we’re connected to. The people that we’re connected to have people they’re connected to.

If we can show that we care about something very specific, a specific organization, cause, or group of organizations. Maybe it’s something around Alzheimer’s; there’s certainly a plethora of organizations that are doing work in that space. You can drive more attention to it.

Even just as simple as maybe being a social media advocate, just liking or sharing a post, that is super low effort to actually do but based on who your networks are and who you’re connected with. You can show that you care about this thing, and two, it’ll help spread the word.

Erin Mogel: Yeah, absolutely. I love what Trevor said. I think one other thing I’m thinking about is how companies can make it as easy as possible for non-profits to understand how those companies can support them. Sometimes it’s really challenging to find the grant guidelines, or how do you even get volunteers from the company?

I know there are people, I know consultants dedicated to bridging the gap between non-profits and for-profits in terms of making those partnerships. I think that companies with the resources and large staff that they have can make it a little bit easier for non-profits to navigate their systems and their ecosystem and understand where they can come in and how those companies can support them.

David Pisarek: Thinking a little bit more along that line, Erin, that you were talking about showing that alignment, how can we show what we need, and who can we connect with?

There’s a webinar I run every six weeks or so that’s all about getting corporate sponsors for your organization. Part of that workshop is “What are your values? What is it that your organization cares about? What’s the impact you have?” Well, if you’re an organization like Habitat for Humanity, where you’re building homes, approach companies like Home Depot who have the supplies and the staff that know what they’re doing.

There are organizations that you can connect with that can help you physically, tangibly, monetarily, or effortlessly, and make it clear that this is the type of help that we need because X, Y, and Z. This is the impact we have.

Here’s how to create that bridge for a business: “Oh, this is what we do. This is what you do. Here’s how we can help.” Just clarify it. Just be straight up and be, “This is what we need help with. Here’s how you can help us,” and just put it out there.

Erin Mogel: Yeah, totally. The way you said it makes it sound so easy. Like, why is this not already happening? It makes complete sense. I think both sides have that responsibility.

I was talking about the companies; non-profits also need to be clear and understand their needs. If they’re not clarified, I think that’s where consultants can be of great service. But once they’re ready, once they know we need support in these three areas, understanding how to share that with the world, understanding how to get that out there. B

ut you’re right, absolutely, Habitat. Understandably, non-profits are pressured to keep the lights on and sustain the communities they’re supporting. That’s a lot, heavy, and they’re usually understaffed and under-resourced. But also, it is important to take that time to do that important values work and to take the time to dig deeply inwards and understand how we best align with a company or a funder that could sustain us for a long time.

Trevor Loke: I was just going to say that the strengths and weaknesses of your organization can be played here. You can say, “Look, our strengths can help you where you need help.” Oftentimes, for companies, that’s the storytelling piece. It’s also saying, “You have the strength for our weakness,” and being honest about that. “We don’t have that human labour required to fulfill this project, but you do; you help us.” I think that honesty and the identification of your strengths and weaknesses is such a good starting point.

David Pisarek: To your point about openness and honesty, there’s been a lot of conversation online around the overhead and expenses of your organizations.

For years and years, probably several decades, organizations, non-profits, charities are like, “Oh, we have we only spend like 2% on our overhead and our staff.” That’s not often the reality. I think it’s okay to say, “You know what? No, we spend 15% or 12% or 21% on our overhead because this is why we need it. This is what we do.”

To your point earlier, you were talking about if there’s a boardroom, let them maybe have a wine, cheese, event. If you have a giant warehouse and you’re not using all of it, maybe a non-profit can use some of that space to store whatever they need, their materials, their packaging, whatever it is. You can leverage each other that way and talk about that, and help have more of a bottom-line effect on the non-profit that isn’t money, but it is.

Erin Mogel: Yeah, I’m smiling because Trevor and I have talked about this topic before. It’s something I’m personally very passionate about.

I used to work for an amazing non-profit that was really leading the charge on the conversation around overhead because they were vocal about how their overhead might not be as low as other non-profits, why they were okay with that, and how others should be. That particular organization understood that they needed just to support their employees. A lot of their employees lived in the community they were serving. They also had maybe gone through that same programming when they were a child and then became staff at the organization. They lived in an underserved area, and so the organization was really committed to paying them what they deserved. They didn’t think there was anything wrong with that.

I agree. I think that it’s what you’re using that money for, right? Is all the money going to your CEO? There could be a problem there. But are you supporting your employees? Are you creating a great workplace where people are retained and focused, passionate and aligned with your mission and want to make an impact and stick around?

Because of that, you’re creating a greater impact as an organization. It’s also looking at where the money is going. Is that so bad, or is it helping your organization in the long run?

Trevor Loke: I also think that the definition of administration or overhead hurts the more grassroots organizations or organizations that are like, “Hey, I’m an executive director who’s also an implementer who’s out in the field working with the community, and I don’t have time to fundraise. Yet my hours are allocated to overhead or administration because I want to be honest with my stakeholders and funders about what’s happening here.”

Then others may define administration differently, significantly larger organizations who can pass that out or put things into different funds. I think this is a very outdated term, and I don’t think we ever agreed on it in the first place.

If we’re going to start thinking about impact and making change to the world, I think we need to start worrying about how we account for people’s hours and whether people are actually being helped, and their problems are being solved. That’s really what’s going to matter long-term.

David Pisarek: The people who work at these non-profits quite often care. That’s why they started it. That’s why they applied for a job at this organization when they spent time volunteering there, maybe in high school. Now they’re reaching out. They graduated college, university, whatever, and they’re looking for employment in the non-profit space.

Everybody should, for the most part; I believe they come at it with the best of intentions. Wouldn’t it be great to have somebody working at your non-profit, your charity, your foundation, whatever organization is your impact, your social impact business that you’ve got… Wouldn’t it be great to have people who are so insanely passionate that they’re willing to take the job even at just over minimum wage?

But wouldn’t it be better actually to pay them a livable wage? It’s okay to spend on salary.

You’re going to get people who care more and want to stay there more. They’re not going to be lured away by another business or another organization willing to pay them an extra 40 cents an hour or $800 a year or a month or whatever it happens to be, and you’ll get better work out of them.

Erin Mogel: Absolutely. I mean, that’s the dream. I think that is the goal. I think that can have such a significant impact.

People want to give back. They want to work for non-profits. They want to work in an entirely mission-driven role and in a role that they’re passionate about.

But they also need to live at the end of the day and funds to sustain themselves. If you are treating your employees well and paying them what they deserve, understandably, it might not be as high as a corporate salary, but something that is livable and respectable salary given the work that they’re doing, they’re going to stick around for that much longer.

As you said, they will be more invested and committed to the company, the work, the executive team, and everyone within.

David Pisarek: Not to get all HR in this episode here, but you can offer things that aren’t necessarily money, that sweeten the deal. An extra couple of days vacation, maybe three or four days over the year that they can use whenever they want, isn’t necessarily planned vacation.

You could do many things to help that aren’t necessarily monetary for the employees like we’ve been talking about. You can help non-profits or businesses without the actual dollar. You can do that with employees as well. Anyways, sorry, Trevor, I know you wanted to say something.

Trevor Loke: No, that’s exactly. I think the point is that we can be a bit more creative than just looking at one line of numbers.

We’re dealing with people; people are complicated; they have dreams, they have hopes and ambitions, and we should want to help people achieve those things.

Again, it’s either you start by having a conversation about your goal, and you try to find the alignment there, and you’re both going to succeed. Again, I would say, yeah, let’s not be so narrow-minded regarding how we approach this. There’s an excellent way to be creative; it often starts with the conversation.

David Pisarek: Absolutely. Trevor, Erin, we’ve had some fantastic conversations on this episode about partnerships, some HR-type stuff, and corporate connections.

I know people listening to this episode have gotten great advice from you both today. I want to challenge everybody.

I want you to go and talk to somebody in the next two days. Tell them one thing that you picked up about the conversation. That’s the challenge for you from this episode. Erin, if anybody wants to get in touch with you, what do they need to do?

Erin Mogel: Yeah, well, thank you so much, first of all, David, for having us. This has been so much fun, and I always learned so much from these conversations, so it’s been a pleasure. If you want to contact me, you can find me at elevatesocialimpact.com. You can follow me on LinkedIn, Erin Mogel.

David Pisarek: Trevor, if anybody wants to get you, what must they do?

Trevor Loke: Yeah, I’m on LinkedIn as Trevor Loke. You can find me through my company, Orgmatch, at www.OrgMatch.com and [email protected] if you want to send a note.

David Pisarek: You mentioned that you both have a freebie for everybody listening. Trevor, tell us about what your offer is here.

Trevor Loke: Our software helps organizations collaborate, starting with the discovery process of “Where do I start? Which I partner with?” Then, once you’re in that partnership, I help you walk through that process. If you want to get started, it’s free to join. You can go to orgmatch.com, put your information into the sign-up sheet, and we’ll go from there.

David Pisarek: And Erin, what about you?

Erin Mogel: Sure. At Elevate Social Impact, we are committed to helping companies, non-profits, and individuals along their social impact journey. We are a consulting and coaching practice, so I’d love to offer a free consultation to whoever might be interested.

Feel free to reach out if you’re a company looking to build CSR into your brand but don’t know where to start. As we discussed before, feel free to contact us if you’re a non-profit looking to diversify your revenue streams.

Then, if you’re an individual looking to break into the social impact space and find more meaningful work, or if you’re pivoting within this sector, I would love to chat with you as well.

David Pisarek: That’s amazing. Those are both solid efforts. Thank you so much again for joining in on the Non-profit Digital Success Podcast.

Everybody listening; if you want any of the links or the resources that Trevor and Erin mentioned and provided, head over to our podcast page at nonprofitdigitalsuccess.com, and click on this episode for all the details.

Until next time, keep on being successful!